Homemade Deli Meat – With and Without Ham Maker

written 4/15/2024, updated 7/21/2025

The juices that came out of this… YUM

What

Making deli meat at home by combining different cuts of meat (can be same kind of meat or a mixture) with and without a Ham Maker

Why

Ability to control what’s put inside your own cold cuts, and can be cheaper

Time and Effort

Time: A few hours

Effort: Easy

Ingredients

Meat

Seasonings

Supplies

Mixing Bowls

Cutting Board

Knives/Meat Grinder/Processor

Ham Maker

Plastic Wrap/Sausage Wrapping

Foil

Pot/Rice Cooker/Oven

Ham Maker Method

Using a Ham Maker is really the easiest way to make a formed meat, especially if you want to mix several cuts or meats together. It can also be used without mixing meats or grinding them. Ham Makers make the wrapping step a cinch.

Ham Maker

Ingredients and Supplies

Meat, Seasonings, Water, Ham Maker, Cooking Bag, Tall Pot, Pot Thermometer, Stove, Refrigerator

Time

30 minutes Prep + 2 hours Cook + overnight Chill

Process

  • Wash your Ham Maker if you haven’t
  • Fill a tall pot with Water, and heat it up on the stove (Target: 182-195F)
  • Choose your meat:

Whole Meat – an entire piece of meat, uncut (e.g. pork loin, pork shoulder, whole breast)

Mixed Meat – a formed mash of different cuts or combinations of meat types

  • Prepare your selection by removing veins, bones, and sinews. Decide if you want to keep, and how much, any fat
  • If using a meat mixture, chop, mince, grind, process, or any combination as desired
  • Season your choice of meat, to taste
  • Allow to set for a few minutes
  • In the meantime, line the Ham Maker with a Cooking Bag
  • When ready, place meat into the canister
  • Twist the top of the bag closed
  • Close the Ham Maker with the press and lid, then insert the thermometer
  • When water in the pot reaches between 180 – 195F, place the full Ham Maker in the water, making sure the water level sits above the fill line of the meat inside
  • Keep the temperature steady (I set my gas stove low-medium)
  • Cook until internal temperature reaches the safe cooking temperature for your meat choice, about 2 hours
  • Place the hot Ham Maker on a hot pad in the refrigerator and cool overnight
  • When fully cooled, run canister under warm water to release the meat

Slice and Enjoy!

Pictures!!

Chopped, Minced, and Processed
Removing Air Bubbles
Squish
It’s Hot!
Chilling
Opening
Pour out the juice
Release
Still in Bag
There it is!

Ta-DAAA!! The hole is where both the twist top of the plastic and the thermometer when in. You can see the texture differences from the different cuts/processing of the meat. Delicious!

No Ham Maker Methods

Sous Vide and Smoked are two methods of making this. If you don’t have a sous vide device, there are alternatives

Sous Vide Method

There are different ways to sous vide without actually using a sous vide device. You can use an oven, a Dutch oven or a pot, and even a rice cooker.

Ingredients and Supplies

Meat, Seasonings, Mixing Bowls, Water, Pot/Oven/Rice Cooker, Thermometer, Refrigerator

Time

35 minutes Prep + 2 hours Cook + Chill

Prepare Meat

*Pictures below

  • Remove any veins, sinews, and bones. Remove or use fat as desired
  • Choose your meat:

Whole Meat – an entire piece of meat, uncut (e.g. pork loin, pork shoulder, whole breast)

Mixed Meat – a formed mash of different cuts or combinations of meat types

  • If using Mixed Meat, prepare a [diced: minced: ground] meat ratio of [¾ : ½ : ⅓ lb] or [350 : 250 : 150 g]
  • Season the meat, to taste (If desired, season each texture a bit differently for a combined complex flavor)

Wrap

  • Set out a double layer of plastic wrap and sprinkle half with smoked paprika and whatever else you’d like
  • Turn out meat mixture
  • Tightly roll into desired shape and size

NOTE: Make sure wrapped meat log(s) will fit into your cooking implement so it can be covered in water!

  • Secure the ends

Cooking

Here are 3 methods of cooking the meat ham without dedicated Sous Vide equipment

Pot Method

  • Fill with water
  • Bring water to a boil
  • Place meat log into the water (make sure meat is and will be fully submerged the whole time)
  • Bring to a boil again
  • Turn off heat and place lid tightly on top
  • Leave for 45 minutes to 1 hour
  • Check for doneness with thermometer
  • Repeat if necessary
  • When done, let cool and enjoy, or chill in refrigerator

Oven Method

  • Preheat oven to 215 – 220F (100C)
  • Select a deep dish or oven safe pot
  • Boil enough water to fill
  • Pour in boiling water
  • Place meat log
  • Cover with parchment paper
  • Cover that in foil and/or a tight lid
  • Cook for 1-3 hours until 160F (75C)
  • Remove from oven
  • Place in an ice bath and/or refrigerator until internal temperature is 50F (10C)

Rice Cooker Method

  • Boil water
  • Pour boiled water into rice cooker
  • Using a thermometer, mix in cold water until water temperature is somewhere between 175-195F
  • Place meat log into water
  • Close
  • Set rice cooker to Keep Warm
  • Cook for about 2 hours
  • Be sure temperature is safe for choice of meat
  • Let cool then enjoy or chill in refrigerator

Pictures (Oven Method)

Ta Da!! Taste was ON POINT

Smoker Method

This method uses a meat grinder then a meat smoker. You can use a dedicated meat grinder, a meat grinding attachment for a stand mixer, or even just a food processor

Prepare Meat

  • Decide on ratio of meat cuts (e.g. [½ : ½] ratio of [skinned chicken thigh : skinless chicken breast])
  • Cut into small pieces

Grind/Process

  • Grind/Process 1st time
  • Grind/Process 2nd time
  • Add any desired seasonings and half of total water

NOTE: For 1lb of meat, add 20ml (⅔ oz. or 1⅓ Tbsp) of water

Total ratio is 40mL water per 1lb (40mL = 1⅓ oz = 2¾ Tbsp)

  • Grind/Process 3rd time

Wrap

  • Place ground meat in a mixing bowl
  • Add the rest of the water, and then mix together really well (should be very sticky)
  • Pump or stuff into an edible or inedible casing (100mm is the largest size I could find on Amazon)
  • Secure the end

Cooking

Overview: 1 hour Dry + 1 hour @ 130F + 1 hour @ 145F + 1 hour @ 160F + more @ 175F

Total: ~5 hours

  • Set smoker to 120F (50C), NO smoke, NO humidity, OPEN dampers to dry the casing for 1 hour
  • Set to 130F (55C), ADD smoke, ADD humidity (water pan), ¾ damper for 1 hour
  • 145F (65C) for 1 hour
  • 160F (72F) for 1 hour
  • 175F (75C) until internal temperature reaches 160F (72C)
  • Place in an ice bath to separate the casing and the meat

Slice and enjoy!

Notes

Attempt 4/14/24: Used Oven Sous Vide Method. Should have added something like cornstarch in the meat mixture to give it some adherence. That and/or changing the ratio to add more ground/pureed meat to fill in the gaps in the meat, while taking away from the original cubed meat. Even if cubing (altered the recipe directions to use smaller pieces), then should process a little. 3 degrees of food processor chopping to make the final product smoother would be more ideal. The way this ended up was more of a headcheese. There IS an obvious complex texture, but it all fell apart easily. The 3 different flavor profiles gave it GREAT taste. Made the mistake of not thinking about the cooking vessel until after rolling the meat. Should have cut it in half and then would have been able to have 2 smaller hams and able to cook it inside of the Dutch oven with the water filled to the top. The way I had it, the water didn’t even cover the whole meat log, so cooking was very uneven. Unsure of how to test internal temperature of meat log without making a mess. Cooking @ 215F took about 2.5 to 3 hours total. Used way too much plastic wrap and wasn’t able to use a lidded dish, just 2 layers of foil. Meat used: Chicken. 3 thighs, 1.5 breast, ¼lb ground chicken (hand squeezed to pulverize). NEXT TIME: more ground chicken, less cubed breast. Add cornstarch for smoothness and adherence. Smaller logs for more even cooking. More food processing. Maybe try using meat casing.

7/21/2025: Used Ham Maker

  • Sous Vide cooking charts recommend cooking chicken at 150F for 1-3 hours.
  • A Ham Maker is a MUCH easier method of doing this. It’s a metal contraption with a spring in it that fits right into a stock pot on the stove and does the same thing neatly. However, if you don’t have one and don’t want one, this is fine, too.
  • There’s always the option of baking or broiling it after the fact for a possible crust or rind? Haven’t attempted that yet

Apple Themed Smoked Ribs

Written: 1/2/2023

Notes for charcoal smoked St. Louis ribs with an apple theme pulling from a variety of online recipes and ideas

What

Charcoal-smoked St. Louis ribs

Ingredients

1 rack of St. Louis ribs, mustard, rice wine, soy sauce, apple juice, 1-2 apples, applewood chips, spices

Spices: coarse/Kosher salt, fresh-cracked peppercorn, brown sugar, garlic powder, onion powder, cumin, paprika, dill weed/pickle seasoning

Foil or peach paper

Time

Prep, Overnight, 3-5 hours in smoker

Steps

  • Combine the spices in a bowl: coarse salt, pepper, brown sugar, garlic powder, onion powder, cumin, paprika
  • Very important: remove the connective tissue lining the bone side of the ribs: Slide a butter knife under the film on a bone. Carefully wiggle until you can grasp the film and then pull. It should come right off cleanly.
  • Cut the rack into 2 if you want (you can also season them differently if desired)
  • Add soy sauce, rice wine, and mustard, spreading evenly on both sides
  • Rub the combined spices into the meat on both sides
  • Very lightly, sprinkle a hint of dill/pickle seasoning
  • Use plastic wrap to tightly bind the rack
  • Refrigerate overnight

Smoking day

  • Take the meat out and let it get to room temperature
  • Optionally, soak some applewood or pecan chips (there is plenty of argument about the functionality of this on the internet)
  • Prepare the smoker (my set up is quite involved, so it’s a good time killer)
  • Start the charcoal in the chimney starter (don’t use lighter fluid)
  • Finish prepping the thermometers, tongs, and workspace
  • Cut the fresh apples into pieces
  • When the charcoal is ready, pour it into the firebox and add a few chips and 1 or 2 apple slices. Yes, apple slices! (apple gives off this neato perfume when it burns)
  • Let the temperature get to be around 250F or so and put the ribs bone side down at the highest point (I’m using a vertical offset smoker)
  • Ribs can be smoked anywhere between 225F to 300F and they’ll still end up great. Faster cook at higher temps, slower at lower temps (duh.)
  • Note: When cooking with charcoal, bigger chunks are good for longer even burning, and smaller chunks give high heat faster. Adjust according to your cooking goals
  • About 30 minutes in and at 60 minutes throw in your wood chips and apple pieces. Remember that you can add smoke flavor, but you can’t take it away, so be wary of over-smoking your meat. I personally don’t like a lot of smoke flavor, so that’s it for the chips at this step for the rest of the cook.
  • About 1.5 to 2 hours in (depending on amount of meat), remove the ribs. They should have a nice bark on them at this point.
  • Brush on or spritz some apple juice all over the meat
  • Using peach paper (or foil), wrap the ribs
  • Place them back in the smoker
  • Add more charcoal to maintain the temperature and any remaining chips or apple pieces
  • After 1-2 hours, do the bounce/bend test: if you give the ribs a nice shake and they start to crack, then they’re done. If not, then brush on some more apple juice and let ’em keep cooking.
  • Good internal temp for the meat is, apparently, 180-200F
  • When they’re done, let the ribs sit for a little and then serve

What happened to me is that it was getting dark, the air temperature was rapidly dropping, and I didn’t want to start up another batch of charcoal, so I took them inside and put them in the convection toaster oven at 275 for an hour. The end product was really, quite good. I like subtle flavors, and this was subtle on every level: lightly sweet from the apple juice, perfect hint of smoke, no overpowering spices, a good bark crust despite the apple juice and peach paper. No need for BBQ sauce! The only thing that could have made it better was cooking at the higher temperatures the whole time (except I had other meats in there, too) and putting enough charcoal in there to achieve that.

I love apples!